Comments on: Transmen http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:53:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: justin http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/comment-page-1/#comment-6390 justin Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:45:43 +0000 http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/?p=350#comment-6390 funny, i used to identify as you did, dressing more masculine but loving the girly bits. but now im on testosterone. i found once i started doing it occasionally it became daily, then it reminded me of when i was young and wondering why i didnt change with the boys...now im on testosterone and sacrificed love because of it. theres a difference between being a butch lesbian and being a transexual. im still butch, but now im on t. people are people and thats it, gender is not so black and white...and its not just about marriage.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('6390','justin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('6390','justin','funny, i used to identify as you did, dressing more masculine but loving the girly bits. but now im on testosterone. i found once i started doing it occasionally it became daily, then it reminded me of when i was young and wondering why i didnt change with the boys...now im on testosterone and sacrificed love because of it. theres a difference between being a butch lesbian and being a transexual. im still butch, but now im on t.\r\n\r\npeople are people and thats it, gender is not so black and white...and its not just about marriage.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> funny, i used to identify as you did, dressing more masculine but loving the girly bits. but now im on testosterone. i found once i started doing it occasionally it became daily, then it reminded me of when i was young and wondering why i didnt change with the boys…now im on testosterone and sacrificed love because of it. theres a difference between being a butch lesbian and being a transexual. im still butch, but now im on t.

people are people and thats it, gender is not so black and white…and its not just about marriage.

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]]> By: coolcity http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5537 coolcity Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:15:41 +0000 http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/?p=350#comment-5537 I agree with the above comments. It is true that transmen have more visibility. But the same could be said for gays and lesbians. I once had an elderly woman ask me why was there such an increase in gay people and implied that it was a fad. I was astounded. In addition to the general increase in population, gays and lesbians simply have more political power, visibilty, and societal acceptance. However, it is not a fad or trend (though, I would support that trend!) With the increase in availabilty of hormones - in this case, "T" - we can expect that there will be more folks transitioning. Queers used to call each other "family". We need to go back to that mentality and not tear each other up for our identities and decisions.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5537','coolcity'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5537','coolcity','I agree with the above comments. It is true that transmen have more visibility. But the same could be said for gays and lesbians. I once had an elderly woman ask me why was there such an increase in gay people and implied that it was a fad. I was astounded. In addition to the general increase in population, gays and lesbians simply have more political power, visibilty, and societal acceptance. However, it is not a fad or trend (though, I would support that trend!) With the increase in availabilty of hormones - in this case, \"T\" - we can expect that there will be more folks transitioning. Queers used to call each other \"family\". We need to go back to that mentality and not tear each other up for our identities and decisions.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree with the above comments. It is true that transmen have more visibility. But the same could be said for gays and lesbians. I once had an elderly woman ask me why was there such an increase in gay people and implied that it was a fad. I was astounded. In addition to the general increase in population, gays and lesbians simply have more political power, visibilty, and societal acceptance. However, it is not a fad or trend (though, I would support that trend!) With the increase in availabilty of hormones – in this case, “T” – we can expect that there will be more folks transitioning. Queers used to call each other “family”. We need to go back to that mentality and not tear each other up for our identities and decisions.
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]]> By: David http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5449 David Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:51:44 +0000 http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/?p=350#comment-5449 You aren't transgender, why would you have any desire to be anything other than what you are? Most "women" who undergo the processes of hormones and surgery (although bottom surgery has yet to be improved or perfected) do not WANT to be a man. They are men. Their outsides do not match how they feel they should be, or who they feel that they are. You should do some research, and maybe you'd understand why your friend wouldn't be content as a "butch lesbian."<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5449','David'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5449','David','You aren\'t transgender, why would you have any desire to be anything other than what you are? Most \"women\" who undergo the processes of hormones and surgery (although bottom surgery has yet to be improved or perfected) do not WANT to be a man. They are men. Their outsides do not match how they feel they should be, or who they feel that they are. You should do some research, and maybe you\'d understand why your friend wouldn\'t be content as a \"butch lesbian.\"'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You aren’t transgender, why would you have any desire to be anything other than what you are? Most “women” who undergo the processes of hormones and surgery (although bottom surgery has yet to be improved or perfected) do not WANT to be a man. They are men. Their outsides do not match how they feel they should be, or who they feel that they are. You should do some research, and maybe you’d understand why your friend wouldn’t be content as a “butch lesbian.”
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]]> By: Moe http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5441 Moe Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:16:57 +0000 http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/?p=350#comment-5441 You are an idiot who is spouting nonsense about something you obviously know nothing about.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5441','Moe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5441','Moe','You are an idiot who is spouting nonsense about something you obviously know nothing about.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You are an idiot who is spouting nonsense about something you obviously know nothing about.
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]]> By: Michael http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/2006/09/15/transmen/comment-page-1/#comment-5320 Michael Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:06:46 +0000 http://thelesbianlifestyle.com/?p=350#comment-5320 There is another matter I nearly forgot - marriage. "Transgender Rights" is a book about laws involving trans people, and cases where they have been applied. As far as marriage goes, many marriages involving trans individuals have been dissolved where proof of heterocentric sexual relations has occurred. For instance, a transman and a cisgender woman were married, and the marriage turned sour. She wanted to keep the kids to herself, and insisted the state invalidate the marriage because it has a verifiable interest in keeping everything heterosexual. The marriage was not invalidated, however, because the transman was able to prove that he could penetrate during sex. Some other cases involving trans people have resulted in both invalidation of marriage, and the denial of a right to ever marry again. (Since everyone is told to marry someone of the opposite sex and trans people fall in the middle, it is easier to say they can't marry than to accomodate.) I don't know how this matter is handled in states where same sex couples are able to marry, but as heterosexuality is not the only way to marriage in those states, I would imagine the issue would be moot.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5320','Michael'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5320','Michael','There is another matter I nearly forgot - marriage. \"Transgender Rights\" is a book about laws involving trans people, and cases where they have been applied. As far as marriage goes, many marriages involving trans individuals have been dissolved where proof of heterocentric sexual relations has occurred. For instance, a transman and a cisgender woman were married, and the marriage turned sour. She wanted to keep the kids to herself, and insisted the state invalidate the marriage because it has a verifiable interest in keeping everything heterosexual. The marriage was not invalidated, however, because the transman was able to prove that he could penetrate during sex. Some other cases involving trans people have resulted in both invalidation of marriage, and the denial of a right to ever marry again. (Since everyone is told to marry someone of the opposite sex and trans people fall in the middle, it is easier to say they can\'t marry than to accomodate.)\r\n\r\nI don\'t know how this matter is handled in states where same sex couples are able to marry, but as heterosexuality is not the only way to marriage in those states, I would imagine the issue would be moot.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> There is another matter I nearly forgot – marriage. “Transgender Rights” is a book about laws involving trans people, and cases where they have been applied. As far as marriage goes, many marriages involving trans individuals have been dissolved where proof of heterocentric sexual relations has occurred. For instance, a transman and a cisgender woman were married, and the marriage turned sour. She wanted to keep the kids to herself, and insisted the state invalidate the marriage because it has a verifiable interest in keeping everything heterosexual. The marriage was not invalidated, however, because the transman was able to prove that he could penetrate during sex. Some other cases involving trans people have resulted in both invalidation of marriage, and the denial of a right to ever marry again. (Since everyone is told to marry someone of the opposite sex and trans people fall in the middle, it is easier to say they can’t marry than to accomodate.)

I don’t know how this matter is handled in states where same sex couples are able to marry, but as heterosexuality is not the only way to marriage in those states, I would imagine the issue would be moot.

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