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Taboo? That’s normal to me….

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What is really taboo?

Merriam-Webster defines taboo as 

  • 1: forbidden to profane use or contact because of what are held to be dangerous supernatural powers
  • 2 a: banned on grounds of morality or taste b: banned as constituting a risk

But who holds the power to decide what is forbidden? Who decides what should be banned, or better still, what morality measuring stick are we to use?

We, as gays, bisexuals, lesbians, and transgenders, are already taboo to a great deal of society. There would be no fight for equality if everyone thought our “behavior” was “appropriate”. There would be less bullying in schools if society fully accepted us. So as a culture, I’m sure many of us feel that we understand what this word really means. But in reality, the word is subjective. What some may consider inappropriate or morally disgusting behavior may alienate others within a community.

A personal example: As a young lesbian, I made many mistakes, many of which I attribute to my own cowardice to  fully being who I am. I had a child with a man, married a man, and had yet another child. I figured that no lesbian would ever accept me after all that, as I wasn’t “gold star”. I obviously was mistaken, but since reorganizing my life, I have still discovered some prejudice against lesbians who have previously slept with men. Prejudice, which indicates that those who hold the bias consider past experience with men a no-no, or in other word, a taboo behavior.

I see forms of bias against other parts of our so-called “accepting” culture. Many gays and lesbians consider bisexuality taboo, and mock bisexuals for being confused, cowardly, or just plain slutty. For example, lesbians, by default, are thought of to be women who love women, are attracted to women, and have intimate and sexual relationships with women. Many lesbians do not understand or accept a lesbian that loves a man, is attracted to a man, or has sex with a man. That would change her “label” to bisexual. But what if she isn’t bisexual? What if she is just as much a lesbian as the rest of us, one who has that fantasy or pursues that behavior? Her thoughts, her feelings, and her behavior would be labeled taboo by many in the greater lesbian community.

I have found, in my experience, what I believe to be the greatest taboo with our community; being transgendered. If bisexuals get a bad rap, then our fellow trans-people have it ten times worse. For some reason, it is acceptable  for a woman to be as butch as possible; wearing her hair in a boy cut, donning men’s clothing, never shaving, cologne-never -perfume, insert-your-own-definition-of-butch-here. These characteristics, while setting her apart, still allow for greater acceptance than if she wished to pursue her goal of a transitioning to become the boy he always knew he was.  Many who don’t (or refuse) to understand consider that transition to be completely against the grain, unacceptable, and, yet again, taboo.  What’s worse is that a transgendered person is not only alienated by the gay/lesbian community but also by their own circle if they choose to reject surgery and hormones, a practice that many trans-people consider taboo.

Of course, there are other taboos that are not related to our community alone. We, as a larger culture, do not believe in eating dogs, cats, insects, etc. We have defined meat products acceptable for consumption and reject the idea of eating “pet” animals or “creepy-crawlies”. In some cultures, eating dogs and cats is not only acceptable but necessary as the animals are perhaps the only that are in great abundance. In some cultures, insects provide a necessary protein in a diet that would otherwise consist only of grains, fruits and vegetables.

While labeling groups and individuals helps us to form necessary boundaries to create  feelings of safety and acceptance, this technique is dangerous because it also alienates and isolates those that don’t fit the “standard” put in place by the majority. The key is to always remember that just as “majority” is subjective, so too is taboo.

These are my thoughts…what are your’s?

I’ll be sure to have a giant bowl of dog and cockroach waiting for you the next time you come over.. MMMMMMMM
JK.

by I Have a Thought on December 15th, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Thankfully I’ve always found the majority a rather boring group of folks. It’s the people the majority label as freaks and outcasts that I would rather keep company with.

We all die the same in the end. It’s such a shame that some people chose to worry more about others and what they do with their bodies in their own beds. For me life is too short for labels. Even shorter to put restrictions on my heart.

by goldstardyke on December 15th, 2008 at 1:32 PM

I absolutely love this subject, especially since as you mentioned, I’m part of a “taboo” community myself, just by being gay. I don’t understand why queer people are so hard on each other when we have so much to fight for as a team. It doesn’t make sense to me to reject or turn on people in our community or otherwise, especially as related to sexuality or gender.

Remember Gay Shame? I was so disappointed and saddened by all those young kids that spent so much energy and time struggling against their own community.

by honey on December 15th, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Thanks for sharing this, Sugar Baby! Imagine how much stronger our community would be if we stopped defending the walls that separate us and instead worked to build bridges over them.

An MCC preacher once told me that we’re all about diversity until we meet someone that’s truly diverse. We can do better.

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by Dharma Kelleher on December 15th, 2008 at 2:43 PM

@I Have a Thought – I’ve had cockroach. Tasted just like a crouton, really, until I discovered what it was. I’ll tell you the story sometime.

by sugar_baby on December 15th, 2008 at 5:40 PM

@Dharma Kelleher – I couldn’t agree more. ALL of society would be stronger if we could break down those walls.

by sugar_baby on December 15th, 2008 at 5:40 PM

@goldstardyke – I guess it depends on what majority we’re talking about…

by sugar_baby on December 15th, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Thank you so much for writing this post… It’s amazing the power of the taboos we have! Having had an ex who was a professional dominatrix, I’ve met some very interesting and open characters and pretty much every single one of them had some things which were taboo.

However, when you said “what I believe to be the greatest taboo with our community; being transgendered”, I was really touched. Yes, it is, in the hetero world, the gay world and the lesbian world. I can understand, however, that people don’t understand us though if they tried talking with us they may realise we’re not as weird as they think! :)

As to what you said about the additional taboo of those who don’t want to be operated, I’m afraid that trans-hierarchies is one of the most rotten aspects of the trans community. It really is very sad.

Emily´s last blog post..A gender-free utopia… Really?

by Emily on December 15th, 2008 at 5:43 PM

My taboos? Infant-play (not into having sex with anyone with a diaper on).

Jul´s last blog post..Queen Latifah does a lot of gay things.

by Jul on December 15th, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Majority = Zombies

by goldstardyke on December 15th, 2008 at 8:52 PM

I saw this post and has made me think about things. Being TG I have always tried to put myself in the place of others to view things as they see it. Even then I still find myself confused. We all use these labels to describe people but for the most part the labels just don’t work well. Being a TG, I consider myself bisexual but mostly attracted to women. Whatever label people want to use in the case is fine with me because I pretty much ignore labels anyway.
People might see the lifestyle I live as taboo, strange, or whatever, but I can say the same for them from my point of view. So here are a few things that still confuse me.

1. If a lesbian is a female who is only has an attraction for other females and does not like anything about a male. Why do they try so hard to look like a male with short hair, breast binding, male clothes and such? It seems to me that a lesbian would want to avoid looking male.

2. If you look at the flip side of that question, why isn’t there a small section of gay men trying their best to look female? Drag queens not withstanding here.

We always clump GLBT together in one group. It isn’t one group though. The first three in that group are defined by which sex they are attracted, while the T aren’t based on which sex they are attracted to but being born the wrong gender. So I ask.

What does being born the wrong gender have to do with which gender you are attracted?

Taboo…? The only thing that should be taboo are the labels. I was born a male, have the body and mind of a female, and I’m a very sexual being. Screw the bias, screw the labels, and screw all the people not open minded enough to accept me for who I am.

Sara´s last blog post..Gay-Straight Alliance hopes to educate teens

by Sara on December 16th, 2008 at 2:17 AM

@Sara – A long time ago, I was asked by a co-worker why I considered myself a lesbian, as I am not usually, (and why I say usually, I mean hardly EVER) attracted to “feminine” women. (I quote that word because I am still trying to figure out what that word really means.) At the time, I was attracted to “butch” women, and she couldn’t understand why someone would say they wanted to sleep with women but not sleep with women who “looked like a woman”.

This question has baffled me for years. It has spawned in me a need for understanding gender, not only as it relates to me, but also as others fight their whole lives (sometimes FOR their OWN lives) to understand it for themselves. It has made me question whether I am actually attracted to butch women at all, or whether I should stop calling myself a lesbian, call myself queer instead and accept that I am mostly attracted to those who walk between the “mainstream” dual genders.

I don’t think all butch women go so far as breast binding. From my experience, many butch women have rather large breasts, which as it goes with any woman, get in the way and become tiresome. Those that do bind may call themselves butch, but I wonder if perhaps, as I said in my post, they lack the acceptance from our community to openly say that they are trans – or even MORE taboo – say they are gender-queer.

In answer to your third, and to me most interesting, question: GLB, correctly, is about what gender you are attracted to. But the basis for being GLB is what gender you are first, and then what gender you are attracted to. T’s appear, most certainly, the only in the acronym that represent something different.

I guess I don’t see it that way, however. I see the T’s as being a part of the whole spectrum, the part of our group that should really make us all question what is it that makes a girl who likes women a lesbian and a man that likes men a gay man. Who is a girl? What is a girl? Who is a boy? What is a boy?

Should we really let the norm of society decide for us what each gender is supposed to be? There is a great lesson to learn from the trans community about gender vs sexual attraction, and there are even greater lessons to be learned about how the two are even related.

Thank you, Sara, so much for your reply. I love getting my brain going this early in the morning with something I am so passionate about. =D

by sugar_baby on December 16th, 2008 at 6:14 AM

@Emily – Thank you for replying Emily. I am sad to say that I have lost contact with my past friends in the trans world, and now only have some friends through a friend, none of which I’ve actually met. I like to think that I understand trans-people, and I know for a fact that I am supportive of the community. I always feel somewhat out of touch, as I have lost over the years the direct contact with the community that I love the most.

There’s a great quote I read recently, “Lust for knowledge: It’s as legitimate as any other kind of lust, as long as all parties are consenting.” -Sally Bellerose

What I miss most about being close with trans-people is the unconditional support they gave me when I questioned everything about them, LOL. They never lost their patience, although I sure my queries were at times exhausting. Now I am resigned to reading any and every gender book I can get my hands on, (one of my favorites being GenderQueer). But the real knowledge and understanding comes from interactions with trans-people, so I can honestly say that although I like to think I understand a great deal, I have a lot left to learn…and I look forward to learning it!
=D

by sugar_baby on December 16th, 2008 at 6:27 AM

There is this show on NatGeo called Taboo and it talks about things that are taboo in our culture are rather common in other cultures. I haven’t watched it since I came out, but I think if I watched it now, I would be more understanding of what it feels like–even though I’ve identified myself as a freak and a geek. There is nothing quite like being different to show someone how similar they are to others.

by Sat-chan on February 26th, 2009 at 6:12 PM

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